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PostPosted: May 27th, 2025, 11:12 pm 
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Fake AI music is popping up on YouTube now: https://youtu.be/VHtOU_cbwQ0?si=m6NuTPkpx4gUeTQp :crazy:
I hate that it's this good already. :hand:
I can already see "The Voice" including this on one of their episodes as a "gotcha" for the judges.


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PostPosted: May 27th, 2025, 11:33 pm 
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There's a guy on youtube, Rick Beato, who's been ranting about this for months...

Once the AIs figure out how to self-replicate w/o our help, we're screwed.

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PostPosted: May 27th, 2025, 11:39 pm 
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I get the impression that a person is actually 'writing' these songs, but who knows.....
I assume that writing songs would be easier for AI to accomplish but that performing it, with all the nuances of a blues guitarist and vocalist, would be harder.


Roscoe Primrose wrote:
There's a guy on youtube, Rick Beato, who's been ranting about this for months...

Once the AIs figure out how to self-replicate w/o our help, we're screwed.

Roscoe


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PostPosted: May 28th, 2025, 12:32 am 
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No, someone's just giving an AI the basic parameters, and the AI is writing & performing it...

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PostPosted: May 28th, 2025, 7:48 am 
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Music composition is very rules-based. Though my background is classical music, there are standard forms and styles, harmonic structure and progressions, keys and modes, rhetorical devices invoking emotional elements, beat, meter and rhythms, etc. that define a particular style. However, music that follow the "rules" can be pretty boring. The true art is knowing where to break the rules and do something unexpected.

There is an adage "Never do the same thing thrice". Make a statement. Repeat that statement so that it is reinforced to the listener (i.e., this is important to remember). Then change or mutate that statement to provide something unexpected and also engaging to the listener. See, that is a rule as well. The principle of the modern minimalist music of Philip Glass, Steve Reich, John Adams, etc. is to use repetition to the extreme, and then change one thing just when the listener becomes entranced (or bored) of the repetitive phrase. Keep repeating the new version, then change something else again. Composition by way of mutation.

Anyway, music is almost perfect for AI composition. Except for live improvisational music (like jazz) where there is the creativity of different minds (musicians) playing off each other, as well as the audience.

If you listen to the Occasional Podcast (Part-time Audiophile), last season they had AI generated entry music to every podcast, done in different styles.

David


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PostPosted: May 29th, 2025, 11:27 am 
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The development of AI is scary.

Elon Musk says, but the end of this decade, the intelligence of AI system would surpass the collective intelligence of hall human beings. That prospect is really scary, as anyone with resources can develop one and there are no global standards.

Recently, OpenAI put its AI to test.
Test was to see if it can solve the CAPTCHA.
It did, like a smart human. Read the story below.

https://gizmodo.com/gpt4-open-ai-chatbot-task-rabbit-chatgpt-1850227471


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PostPosted: May 29th, 2025, 12:06 pm 
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Humans are the best iteration of a "device" that can adapt and be successful in an environment with limited infrastructure such as in former times on Earth. When the infrastructure becomes more advanced, it may be that mechanical devices are better suited to grow and assume dominance than are humans. This is a common thread in much of the SciFi I read. If you look at the processing power of the brain and the speed involved, it is clear that AI can better humans for many tasks at this time and probably an increasing number in the future as long as the infrastructure needed by machines is maintained, including what is needed for mobility. May take a while, but not out of the realm of possibility.


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