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Author: | David McGown [ March 17th, 2022, 9:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
Forgot to add, that I have seperate power tube and driver tube power supplies. Damper diodes/SiC Schottky bridge for the power tube, 6C4 rectifier/SiC Schottky bridge for the input/driver tubes. |
Author: | SoundMods [ March 17th, 2022, 11:45 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
David McGown wrote: Recently finished a complete rebuild of my nearly 20yr old PP 2A3 monoblocks. Fixing a few nagging problems with the original design, using a different driver topology, a modern and more robust power supply, and much nicer vintage potted power transformers (the old power transformers were cheap Allied by Hammond that buzzed and ran very hot). Still using a Hashimoto HW-60-5 output transformer.. Absolutely superb workmanship!! ![]() ![]() |
Author: | TubeDriver [ March 18th, 2022, 10:18 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
Looks great! Sovtec 2A3s can take a beating and sound pretty nice, they are a well balanced sounding tube. I have run Sovtec 6A3 at at 300B operating levels (70mA, 450v) with no issues. I always suspected they just stuffed a 300B into a smaller bottle and called it a 2A3. ![]() |
Author: | Roscoe Primrose [ March 18th, 2022, 10:42 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
TubeDriver wrote: Looks great! Sovtec 2A3s can take a beating and sound pretty nice, they are a well balanced sounding tube. I have run Sovtec 6A3 at at 300B operating levels (70mA, 450v) with no issues. I always suspected they just stuffed a 300B into a smaller bottle and called it a 2A3. ![]() If they did, it would be a 5A3….. |
Author: | TubeDriver [ March 18th, 2022, 11:12 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
That was how I ran it! ![]() Even run at 5v, Sovtec 6A3 sounded fine. Roscoe Primrose wrote: TubeDriver wrote: Looks great! Sovtec 2A3s can take a beating and sound pretty nice, they are a well balanced sounding tube. I have run Sovtec 6A3 at at 300B operating levels (70mA, 450v) with no issues. I always suspected they just stuffed a 300B into a smaller bottle and called it a 2A3. ![]() If they did, it would be a 5A3….. |
Author: | David McGown [ March 18th, 2022, 11:25 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
Pete, Roscoe, Well, I will have to try increasing the current a bit on the Sovteks (which really gets me deeper in Class A rather than more power). The tradeoff is when they start to sound hard, which was the case with the TJ 300B/2.5V, they sounded much better around 52 mA than at 70 mA (still not as tonally balanced as the Sovteks). Maybe the sweet spot is closer to 60mA. But I just dug out a working quad of Shuguang 2A3Cs and put them in. Unfortunately, one has a really loose base that I need to fix. But they sound more liquid and musical than the Sovtek tubes on first listen this morning. I will let them stay in for a while. I also have a quad of Shuguang 2A3Bs, which is the smaller envelope like the Sovtek 2A3s. I may just spring for a quad of Psvane or LinLai 2A3C, they are pretty cheap. However, JC Morrison (who was involved in the design of the Sovtek tube when working at EH) maintained that the 15W max plate dissipation and 300V max voltage is real. Running them hot increases the emissions on the filament causing them to wear out faster. However, I have heard of SO many people pushing these tubes well beyond the voltage or thermal limits and getting good life, so there must be alot of conservatism in the design. David |
Author: | tomp [ March 18th, 2022, 11:40 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
Ditto on the superb workmanship. As far as the signal generator output, I mentioned this generator I got last year. It works great and can output 20VPP. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08T9H9FBY?ps ... ct_details |
Author: | David McGown [ March 18th, 2022, 11:54 am ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
Tom, Thanks, I will have to check that out. My old Heathkit signal generator I built 25-30 years ago is not working so well, tough to get a clean stable waveform, probably needs re-capped. Modern devices should be cleaner, more reliable, and have better features. David |
Author: | tomp [ March 18th, 2022, 12:32 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: PP 2A3 amp rebuild |
It also functions as a counter and has two channel output which can be different signals. Tom |
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